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February 16, 2007

BDSM and Your Boomer Grandma

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This is really a rant on my frustration at running a discussion board - so if the headline caught your attention, you'll be rewarded in the end (so to speak).

I've come to the conclusion that Boomers just simply have nothing to say - or do they? We've been struggling with a discussion board for something like three years now. Every time we think we have it right we get hit by board spammers and the whole thing goes to hell in a hand-basket.

The problem is Google - no, really. The all-knowing Google algorithm essentially gives "link love" to outbound links in content sites like this one. So, if you are a spammer, the more discussion board posts with links to your v-i-a-g-r-a site, the more popular you become in the Google search listings. Like a lot of things, the spammer's success depends on how diligent the webmaster is at removing this spam - a discussion board that has been ignored can have thousands of these spam links and one that is moderated closely is a LOT of work.

Another trick they employ is to use robots to create hundreds of sign ups (with the spam URL included) in hopes that the discussion board will have a published list of users (we don't) - and therefore an outbound link to their spam site.

Unfortunately, throttling these two forms of spam has created a hardship for "real" users - making them jump through hoops to sign up and forcing us to moderate every new member. In fact, it's gotten so bad that we've essentially given up on trying to moderate registrations. We probably lose hundreds of new users a day in the multitude of robot-created sign-ups - our apologies.

We essentially have two options:
1. Make the sign-up process completely manual - meaning if you want to sign up for the discussion board, you'll need to follow up your automated registration with an email that says - "hey, I'm real, I have something to say and I want to become a member of the discussion board."

2. Close the board.

We think option 2 is a bit drastic. So if you really have something to say - drop us a line and we'll dutifully respond with you brand-spanking (pun intended) new username and password.

Finally, from these two recent discussion board posts it's clear that Boomers are both earnest and warped at the same time.

Post # 266: Irwin's in Toronto?!?! From a grandmother wanting to know if Steve Irwin's widow and daughter are coming to Toronto. She wants to take her grandchildren.

And this one:
Post # 267: BDSM Boomers From a guy who's started a bondage and discipline discussion group on Yahoo.

Editor's note: The second poster signed up a couple of weeks ago and I didn't activate his membership until he wrote asking when he would be approved. I let him wait a few more days until I could get around to it - just so he could feel my pain.



Posted on February 16, 2007 5:08 AM


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I just found this place. I also am just getting active in this "field" having been indifferent to aging and politics for 55 years of my life. The concept looks interesting. I just joined the forum, but it looks dead. I looked at the member list (yes, it's possible if you know how) and see you indeed have a spam problem.

Perhaps we can join forces, as I run several of these boards. Anyway, good luck, I hope to see some posts soon and post my own brilliant insights. (not?)

Posted by: randulo on February 19, 2007 8:31 AM

I can appreciate your frustrations. I am planning on starting a blog for seniors with the focus on all aspects financial well being. Yes you do have a spam issue. but as randulo suggests maybe a team effort could be an answer to some of the struggles of a blog-master ( is that even a word yet)

Regards,

Boyd

Posted by: Boyd Clark on February 23, 2007 1:48 PM

Well, I wondered why what should be a wonderful idea should be a dead board. I especially wanted to trade thoughts with a mature group.

Spam... today I received an appeal from a deathbed to help him retreive 10.5 million$. I could keep 20%


What a deal, huh??

So yes, I understand that the corrupt rule.

Posted by: Beth Cyr on February 24, 2007 1:58 AM

Haven't signed up yet, but plan to. Don't mind at all the 'manual' signing up and/or a waiting period, especially if it keeps spammers off the board.

Posted by: Maggie Hart on February 24, 2007 7:05 PM

Spamming forums has become a full time job for many groups with differing agendas. Some are bored kids, some are marketeers, some are con artists, some are organized political entities and some are organized single issue "think-tanks" or "organizations". There are other reasons spam happens but these are the main ones that I have observed. Agenda's vary from "havin' fun" to "getting rich" to "blocking discussion". The latter is the hardest to deal with. It is hard to distinguish between a different opinion and an attempt to create chaos in a discussion. Most forums fail even if they persist if membership is not highly restricted to "well behaved" members. Somehow "well behaved" reduces forums to a Nannie flavor of the make-nice trivia sort. Not restricting behavior "takes down" a forum as frustrated posters give up.

Forums are like the workplace. Cliques develop and start socializing and discussing posters outside the clique. Cliques declare war on each other and start trying to get rid of other cliques. Forums are the strangest of beasts because no one knows who the other person really is but they are able to establish mini-societies with strangers.

Without good moderation focused at eliminating the most egregious of the spam (MLM schemes, organized attacks, etc.), forums have a hard time making a go of it.

I visit your forum about once every three months and it remains static. The main problem you have is attracting posters. Without someone taking a lead and posting something that will attract responses, it will remain static.

Do boomers self-identify? I am beginning to think not. Will economic realities bring them together as they age and lose power and control? I don't really think so. One of the first lessons I learned as I moved into lower management years ago was that younger boomers considered older boomers as a brick wall ruining their lives. "The older boomers got there first and grabbed it all."

I'm a 1948 boomer.

Posted by: Anna Lee on March 23, 2007 7:22 AM

First I must confess that I was born in 1944, so I don't absolutely belong to the boomer generation. But I too have been indifferent to aging etc. until only recently. And now only in a very personal sense -- i.e. what really is the meaning of MY live? I'm 62, have raised a terrific bunch of kids who are all contributing members of society today. Married to the same man for almost 40 years now, which is very gratifying; we have such a history together and it's great to have shared it all with the same person. I have lots of really good friends, financial security (I think...), a loving spouse, a beautiful home in the foothills of the Rockies, lots of people who love me and care. I've been a nurturer all my life (oldest daughter of six siblings, mother of six children, caregiver today to an old fraternity brother of "ours" who has Parkinson's), but why do I feel so empty these days? Like I'm just spinning my wheels, which I know is so trite, but that's how I feel. I have virtually no religious beliefs anymore, and having been raised a pretty traditional Catholic I know that has left somewhat of a void in my life. But my life experiences and observations have left me with an agnostic approach.
I could go on all day, but I first need to know if anyone is interested in just conversing with me... or sharing thoughts on some of my rather vague issues. I have some pretty deep and sometimes lonely thoughts... I know I'm seeking some spiritual enlightenment. Just something that will work for me. Any thoughts?
Sue


Posted by: Sue on March 31, 2007 11:39 AM

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